A quick post to illustrate my ongoing point that there are too many atheists (/skeptics/humanists/freethinkers/etc) who value their ignorant, messed up idea of what “free speech” is way, way more than respecting women as more than objects:
— (((Jayne A Broad))) (@jayne_a_broad) June 30, 2013
Paul Andor Nagy:
Whomever it was that reported the picture of the naked ladies on the Honda, please take yourself out of this group.
This group is for Freethinkers, Humanists, Atheists, Agnostics, Scientists, Skeptics, Nontheists, Naturalists, Rationalists, Secularists and supporters of sound science and critical thinking who support Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Thought, Freedom of the Press, Freedom of Art, Freedom of Religion, Freedom From Religion, Separation of Church and State, Separation of Church and Business, Separation of Church and Education.
There is nothing wrong with nudity. There is nothing wrong with sex. If someone feels offense from seeing pictures of nudity, that person is not ready to sit at the adult-table.
You know he means business because of All The Capital Letters. Nagy eventually links to the photo (NSFW obviously), which he posted on another motorcycle group, this one called “Chicks on Bikes” and which also has women politely saying “what the fuck dude.” For those who don’t want to click through or can’t see it, it’s a black and white photo of two completely naked women (not even wearing shoes!) talking with a fully clothed man on a sunny day. One of the women is sitting on the back of a motorcycle. I don’t know about you ladies, but one of my favorite things to do is sit my naked vulva down on some sizzling black leather while engaging in small talk. Finally this common female experience has been documented.
Paul Andor Nagy:
The only thing in this group that is inappropriate is “the restriction of” speech or expression. If someone writes or says something you don’t like, argue against it. If someone posts a photo you don’t like, don’t look at it. Before our nation’s founding fathers laid out the constitution, this poor land was settled by puritans who were so freaky conservative that they were chased out of Europe. The US has never been able to shake that off. This group is for the discussion of free thought. That includes sex. If a woman (or a man) chooses to pose nude for photos, why should any of us try to tell her what she can or can not do with her body? Why hide your eyes from it?
It’s hardly surprising that there’s yet another group for freethinkers run by someone stupid enough to whine about his free speech rights being trampled because someone “tattled” (a word Nagy actually uses in one comment without apparent irony), i.e., rightfully pointed out that this was probably a violation of Facebook’s community standards. This is probably the tenth example I’ve seen this week of atheist men being overly sensitive and crying every time someone points out that it would be cool if they treated women like people. What truly elevates this scenario to the point that I felt it necessary to spend 10 minutes composing this post is the simple fact that this particular genius felt it necessary to support his brave anti-censorship, pro-titties argument by approvingly citing the leader of a religious cult:
Paul Andor Nagy:
“As long as men are allowed to be topless in public, women should have the same constitutional right. Or else, men should have to wear something to hide their chests” Rael, founder of Gotopless.org and spiritual leader of the Raelian Movement (rael.org) https://www.facebook.com/gotopless/info
Not only is he now comparing a request to stop objectifying women on a freethinker’s motorcycle club to denying women their constitutional right to show their breasts, but he’s also quoting and linking to an actual cult to do it. Don’t get me wrong, of all the completely bonkers, irrational cults to pick, Raelians are maybe the most lovable, though they still might be bilking trusting people out of millions of dollars. But, yeah, still a religious cult. Good freethinking, there, guy.