The other day, new user “tigirl” attempted to post a big rant on a post that had nothing to do with what she was ranting about, so obviously I didn’t allow the comment to go through. It was so long and ignorant, though, that I wanted to post it here so that she could get the information she sought. Here is what she posted, in full:
Creativity will never come from the skeptics corner.
I practice â€œalternative medicineâ€ in the form of acupuncture and am also a scientistâ€“Biologist. I see that only two of the skepchicks are even scientists and I wonder if those two have ever read about or experienced any â€œalternative medicineâ€ treatments when they were ill? In the case of Chinese Medicine, there are many â€œmodernâ€ theories as to how and why it works. Mainly it has to do with the formation of the embryo and the fact that the tissuesâ€“endoderm, ectoderm and mesodermâ€“which form the various organs and body parts are related via the fascia of the body and that messages are sent along this fascia to the various organs of the body in order for the body to respond to itself and the environmentâ€“scientific fact. Acupuncture is a very precise way of influencing the body via this system. A simple example would be that an excited heart rate can be slowed by stimulating certain points on the heart channel located on the ulnar side of the forearm. Both the heart and lung channels are located on the arms just as the heart and lungs are above the diaphragm. All their fascia are connected. Fascia is a piezo-electric tissue matrix which sends a charge when stimulated either with pressure, heat, needle, meditation etc. These things are proven. Just as meditationâ€™s effect on the brain are proven. Ever heard of brain plasticity theory?
All pharmaceuticals are harmful to the bodyâ€“fact. No disease is caused by a deficiency of pharmaceuticals or surgery. No disease has ever been cured in the real sense of the word where youâ€™re just as good as you were before, with allopathic medicine. Can anyone name a disease which has been cured? Our bodies built themselves and have the information on hand to correct problems if the damage is not too severe. It makes sense to use natural medical approaches to prevent and treat disease. It will lower the cost of health care as it already has in Washington State where alt med is required to be covered by all insurance and is available in some areas in the public health system.
Get a clue. Just because youâ€™re a skeptic doesnâ€™t mean youâ€™re smart or informed. Is there anyone on this site who can actually intelligently comment on any major branch of alternative medicine? Have you read any textbooks on the subject or had any treatments? Research is supported by those not wanting it to workâ€“ie the status quo AMA. By the way, the study of acupuncture is now offered at all the top medical schools in the country as well as many hospitals. Watch for the coming co-opting of Chinese Medicine by your local MD who will strip all real â€œChineseâ€ from the medicine and make it quite marginal as the Medical Acupuncturists already have.
I’ll just address a few points and then let the rest of you have at it, playing Name That Logical Fallacy and correcting her mistakes throughout.
I wonder if those two have ever read about or experienced any â€œalternative medicineâ€ treatments when they were ill?
First of all, the skepchicks are well-acquainted with alternative medicine, which is the phrase we give to treatments that aren’t effective enough to receive the moniker “actual medicine.” If you’re going to pick one to ascribe to, you could do worse than acupuncture, since that is one of the few that show something happens at some time, though never quite how any of its regular practitioners believe or expect.
I recommend you read Simon Singh & Edzard Ernst’s Trick or Treatment for a fair overview of what alternative medicine is, as well as what works and what does not work. It was not written by “those not wanting it to work.” Ernst was a practicing alt med doctor who turned to serious scientific inquiry to figure out the truth behind the treatment.
Can anyone name a disease which has been cured?
Depending on how you want to define “cure,” you could throw in craploads more. Diptheria. Polio. Measles. Appendicitis. Chicken pox. Influenza.
Those are just a few of the many diseases that are successfully treated by vaccines, surgery, or antibiotics. If you tried to cure those diseases with acupuncture, homeopathy, faith healing, or magnets, you would most likely die or be maimed for life. For instance, if you look up “natural” ways to treat appendicitis, you may be convinced all you need is a little buttermilk. Meanwhile, your appendix will be oozing pus out into your abdominal cavity, which will soon become infected. You’ll die screaming in pain, and sadly you may vomit up all that buttermilk.
As you’ll find in Trick or Treatment, scientists “cured” scurvy using controlled scientific trials to figure out that lemons and limes would do the trick. Treating scurvy by recommending fruits high in vitamin C is not considered “alternative medicine,” because it works, and we know it works. Once someone designs and completes experiments showing the same unequivocally positive results from acupuncture, and it, too, will become “actual medicine.” For now, the studies are inconclusive and require stricter controls for clearer results.
So my question is: what school gave you a degree in biology without a basic understanding of the history of disease? Or were you planning to continually define and redefine “cure” until you feel your point has been made?