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Planned Parenthood is Not Selling Baby Parts, You Fucking Idiots

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Planned Parenthood is in the news a lot these days thanks to a maliciously edited video making it look like they SELL BABY PARTS.

It’s weird for those of us with two brain cells to rub together, that this is even a thing. Because first of all, obviously Planned Parenthood doesn’t sell BABY PARTS. Jesus fucking christ, get a hold of yourselves. Baby parts!

3% of all Planned Parenthood’s activities are abortions, and more than 90% of those are in the first trimester when it’s about size of a kidney bean, so they do see some pieces of fetal tissue. Which are just going to be thrown away in the garbage, but which the patient can instead choose to donate to important medical research.

HOW DARE THEY! How dare Planned Parenthood allow women to aid in the research and treatment of conditions like H.I.V. and Parkinson’s disease, when instead those women could just be throwing that tissue in the garbage!

So yeah, there’s the fact that Planned Parenthood obviously isn’t “selling baby parts.” And then there’s the fact that the group releasing this video are some of the same people who worked for the group Live Action, which is best known for…editing together misleading videos attacking Planned Parenthood.

So despite the fact that this is an obviously made up and ridiculous accusation, actual politicians are taking it seriously. If you live in the US, your tax dollars are now going toward Congressional Republicans calling for a formal investigation, and the House Energy and Commerce Committee has announced they’ll launch a probe. A probe for baby parts! Good luck, guys!

This all reminds me of a course I took in college on heresy. I remember learning about how multiple times throughout human history, various groups of people have been accused of the very specific act of gathering together and hosting orgies, and then taking the resulting babies from any past orgies and burning them into ashes, which are then formed into cakes, which are then eaten. Usually it’s supposed to be the Jews doing this but plenty of other marginalized groups have been accused as well. And it always baffled me to think that people could really, truly believe that their fellow humans were doing something so obviously stupid and made up.

Well, now it’s 2015 and an organization that is mostly responsible for making sure poor women have access to basic medical care including cancer screenings, checkups, and birth control, are accused of convincing women to abort their babies and then tearing them into parts and selling them on the black market.

And I realize, that if it helps you achieve your goals — whether they be persecuting people of a different faith or cutting funding for poor women’s health care — it becomes surprisingly easy to believe something unbelievable.

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  • What do you do when your obviously faked bullshit gets called out in a few small left-wing rags online? Why double-down of course!

    http://liveactionnews.org/new-undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-dissecting-aborted-baby/

    Jesus Fracking Keerist! *sigh* From the comments...

    "PJ, I pray you are right, but the power of this evil is VERY strong. Abortion and witchcraft and the occult are aligned. The blood of these children only make the industry stronger--not just with money but with evil. Abortion is a sacrament to the witches.... It will not go away with exposure or even laws. What this needs is the USA repenting--repenting and turning from our wicked ways.

    God will not heal our land because Planned Parenthood stops its human trafficking in dead babies. God will heal our land when we truly as a nation see this as a spiritual crisis and throw ourselves at the feet of the Cross in repentance."

    Wheeee!!!!!!

  • PP may not be selling body parts and fetal tissue, and most all of what Rebecca is saying is true; however, what she is saying is not an argument that they are not selling the tissue. Because PP does a lot of great things, doesn't mean that some in the organization are bad eggs and do bad things. Just because most of the abortions are of fetuses the size of a kidney bean, does not mean that larger fetuses are not being sold. Just because the organization filming them is out to get PP, doesn't mean they didn't catch them doing something wrong. I know the video is highly edited, but there are a few sentences in there that are troubling. I doubt PP is selling this tissue, but if we want to discount it, superficial arguments like Rebecca's are certainly not going to do it.

    • Exactly! Also, I have looked into it more and there are at least 3 different videos with different employees in them...that makes me think they really are receiving compensation for the parts...it may be considered a processing/procurement fee rather than selling, but it certainly looks like they are being paid for fetal arms, legs, neural tissue, etc.

      • Why does 3 videos and 3 employees matter? Yes, they are 'receiving monetary compensation'. That was never in question. But not for the tissues per se. It costs PP money to store and ship the tissues. They are compensated for *those costs*. That doesn't mean PP is in a 'business' trying to make a 'profit' off it. They are trying to break even. The Dr. videotaped in the very first video made the point repeatedly.

        As for the stuff that in another post you 'don't want to think about', what on earth did you imagine aborted fetus tissues would look like, ma'am? Flowers and kittens? Brain surgery is pretty disturbing too until you get used to seeing it.

  • I came across your video through Facebook. A friend of mine shared it. I guess it caught me by surprise. And as I read through all of the comments I really became caught off guard. The quick and sarcastic comments that flooded this video, agreeing with you and also pushing blame on the right wing or left wing politicians for allowing this video to ever surface. I don't want to become sucked into the political spiral that has consumed us all.

    But there was one thing in particular that I have been struggling with. I guess I have to share my story. I also want to say that I'm not here to argue but to start a conversation.

    At the age of 18 my sister got an abortion at planned parenthood. She was in her second trimester 15 weeks. I was one of many people who she asked for advice, I at the time was 16. I remember telling her she has nothing to worry about because its not even 20 weeks yet, it's still just tissue forming. Her friends and some family at the time agreed and this made my sister feel more comfortable with her decision. My sister and her boyfriend at the time went to planned parenthood and went through with the abortion.

    About six months after she had the abortion she had a mental break down. She explained the morning of the abortion and how she remembers the baby coming out of her. My whole family was scared of her reaction so she was put into therapy.

    Nearly ten years later. I am now pregnant. When I was 16 weeks the same people who gave my sister advice to have an abortion because its just tissue were congratulating me on my baby. They actually said baby. Not tissue, not anything else but baby. That is when I realized I told my sister to throw away her child.

    My sister and I are totally different people, I went to college got married and then decided to have children. My sister was 18 and had her future to look forward to, changing the dynamic of the situation. Many people saw her as an issue, because she might soon be on welfare with no future struggling and never achieving her dreams.
    People see me and they see someone who planned well and will be able to take care of her children and will not be a burden or be burdened with a child.

    I got my first check up at 9 weeks, that's when the baby is a size of a kidney bean I was able to hear the heartbeat, I was told congratulations by the doctor, I was given a huge folder on what to eat, what not to eat, essentially how to make the healthiest baby.

    My sister was told its ok, it's still tissue at 15 weeks.

    I guess to me it's just concerning, everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, to me it's just hard to sit back and not realize the differences that we experienced, and yes education, age and surroundings changed our outcomes.

    What was considered to be an unfit parent was pressured into abortion compared to me who appears to be a fit parent, who is celebrated.

    • I get it, I do. I have been pro-choice most of my adult life; most of my family is very conservative pro lifers and this discussion has come up several times.
      I have a friend that waited a little later in life to get pregnant-it took her a year to get pregnant, so once it was confirmed, she was over the moon. She started telling people around the 8-9 week mark and of course it was always a baby, not a fetus or a any of the other technical words. You talk about the baby having a heartbeat, but just because something has a heartbeat doesn't mean it's "alive". Maybe that's what the conversation needs to be--it some thing that has a heart beat alive? Or does it need to have a functioning brain as well? Does it need to be able to survive with out any aid?
      The reality is that your 9 week old "baby" wouldn't survive if you had it now. And it disturbs me that there is a group of people that want to put the rights of a fetus or an unborn baby above the rights of the living, breathing mother. Sure we could ban all abortions and make all the women that get pregnant have the babies. But right now we don't have any resources to support the influx of adoptions and single mothers who need help with food assistance and day care and whatever.
      My sister just had her first child and the father has been in and out of the baby's life. He provides no real support and she is working a full and a part time job, but she is struggling financially. She went to school while she was on maternity leave to get a better job and also worked part time. My mom has been watching her daughter but has to go back to work, so my sister has been searching for day care and is discovering that day care costs more than her rent. She is getting WIC, but makes to much for any kind of food stamps or help with daycare. So she can work part time and get assistance, or work 2 jobs and barely make it and never see her daughter.

      For most people, having an abortion is a really tough decision. I don't think most people are cavalier or casual about it. And some people do struggle with the aftermath. But those women made the right decision for themselves at that moment in their lives.

      • blushannon are you suggesting the lack of suitable economic resources for the unborn is a good argument for abortion? Because if so your subsequent paragraph details your sister's economic struggles...but surely you weren't in favor of her getting an abortion. Right?

    • In your anecdote , *you* , and 'some friends and family' are the ones who told your sister the fetus was 'just tissue' at 15 weeks.

      Ten years later 'the same people' told you your fetus was a 'baby'.

      Huh.

  • Really? There is not just one video...there are 3 different ones at least. I don't think that Planned Parenthood is necessarily a bad organization. They provide a lot of very important services to people who would not otherwise have access to these services.

    They are receiving monetary compensation for aborted fetal body parts...are they getting rich off of it? Probably not. Does this sicken a lot of people? Yes! I understand that these parts are likely (hopefully being used for medical research) but it still is something I don't want to think about.

    This one actually shows parts on a dish, being sorted and the amounts being talked about. Just go to 7:32 to skip through the rest of the dramatic talking, etc.

    http://liveactionnews.org/new-undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-dissecting-aborted-baby/

  • What is the source of the claim that "3% of all Planned Parenthood's activities are abortions"? Planned Parenthood performs no mammograms, for example, but instead refers patients to facilities that can actually do them. These are similar to referrals of many other organizations, including county health departments and the American Cancer Society.

    Planned Parenthood does perform abortions in-house.

    I'm curious as to whether a referral for a procedure and a procedure are both considered an "activity" and are counted the same. If a particular clinic does 97 referrals and 3 abortions in a week, then were abortions only 3% of that clinic's activity?

    • Planned parenthood actually does provide mammograms occasionally through mobile mammography vans, and pays for women's mammograms through grants. They also do breast exams, which are part of breast cancer screening and a common way to find issues.

      You have a strange focus on mammogram referrals vs abortions. Those two services aren't the only two offered by pp, and your disingenuous jaqing feels pretty contrived when you consider you're posting this on the internet. Where you can actually find answers to your question, though I suppose if you don't like the answers its probably more fulfilling to fling shit at the wall.

      Contraception (including reversible contraception, emergency contraception, vasectomies and tubal sterilizations): 4,009,549 services

      Sexually transmitted infections testing and treatment: 3,955,916 services

      Cancer screening and prevention: 1,830,811 services

      Other women’s health services(including pregnancy tests and prenatal care): 1,178,369 services

      Abortions: 332,278 procedures

      Miscellaneous (including primary care and adoption referrals): 76,977

      Total services: 11,383,900

      • Good facts, Aly. Of the roughly 1 million abortions performed each year, about one-third are performed by Planned Parenthood.

        Let's forget about abortion for a second. We all know that most abortions could be avoided if people used birth control. Yes, a small number of babies would be conceived, but for the most part, 97%+ of all these abortions could have been prevented. That's a big story.

        Next up.... Almost 4 million people treated for STDs. Again, proper use of condoms would go a long way toward stopping the spread of STDs. What does it cost to treat an STD as opposed to use condoms?

        Seems to me the educational element of safe sex is still not conveyed nor understood by Americans. How sad.

  • I would actually be really interested in seeing the syllabus and required/suggested reading for that course on heresy. Is there any chance it's still floating around on the Internet somewhere? Where was it held?

  • The only talk about Planned Parenthood is regarding abortion, but that makes up a small portion of their activity. I want to post a comment about my son, a Planned Parenthood baby. I was not initially married to my son's mother when he was born and could not add her to my work's health plan. We went to Planned Parenthood for help and advice. They were incredible with resources, advice and council to make his birth successful. Abortion was never on the table and never discussed. He was born extremely prematurely and initially faced significant medical challenges. He is now a healthy, smart energetic 3.5 year old boy. I consider Planned Parenthood instrumental in his successful birth, life and health and am proud to call him a Planned Parenthood baby.

  • Don't bother to comment because liberal bitches like this baby hater will just delete what you say.....liberal bitches are dead loving baby hating leg spreading skanks....

  • Just when I was pleasantly surprised about the level headed and intelligent comments from both sides, Ms, Balboa had to ruin the experience with an absolutely uncalled for and insulting contribution. You are some classy lady....

  • Is that how you address the people who regularly read SkepChick and agree with you — "Fucking idiots?" Why do you have such a low opinion of your readership?

    • Irwin, how did you get that out of the title? She's very obviously using the title to address those who believe the anti-choice propaganda that this video was a response to.

      Perhaps you are unaware what this video was regarding...?
      There are links provided in the text of this post.