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Quickies: Bubble Wrap, Why Tattoos are Permanent, and Tom Petty Criticizes Catholic Church

BONUS: The New Yorker Stories You Should Read Before the Paywall Goes Up. I am definitely going to look through this over the next month.

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Mary Brock works as an Immunology scientist by day and takes care of a pink-loving princess child by night. She likes cloudy days, crafting, cooking, and Fall weather in New England.

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  1. Mary,

    Hopefully any extraterrestrials out there won’t take what Ken Ham said too personally, that they must be going to Hell since they’re not human.

    Off course there is question as to what kind of God would create a universe like this? Set it up so that humans would either believe a story that we have ample reason to doubt or burn for all eternity. Than set it up so that every other intelligent being in the universe would suffer the same fate as humans who disbelieve, even if they believed Jesus was their savior?

    It says a lot about Ken Ham, that he doesn’t seem to understand how disturbing even the idea of God and universe that works like that actually is.

  2. I am surprised that Ken Ham is against a space program. If God is going to fulfill His Promise to Abraham, the human race needs to expand a whole lot more than can happen on Earth.

    God Promised to Abraham, that his descendants would number as the stars in the sky and the grains of sand on the sea shore. Both of these are very large numbers, ~10^24 for stars, ~10^21 for grains of sand. Until Abraham has that many descendants, God cannot bring on the Apocalypse.

    So far, something like 10^11 humans have ever lived. If we take the carrying capacity of the Earth as ~10^11, then it would take about 10^13 generations for 10^24 humans to live. At 20 years per generation, that is 2×10^14 years. The Sun is a main sequence star, with a lifetime of ~10^10 years, God would only have to replace the Sun ~2,000 times.

    1. Daedalus2u,

      And off course if we convince ourselves as Ken Ham has done that all aliens are destined for Hell no matter what, since they’re not human, we could easily justify just about any atrocity we would want to commit against them. I mean humans are God’s chosen species, we are the master race. It doesn’t matter how much like us they turn out to be, we’re better than them because we’re decedents from Adam, and we can be saved while they cannot, because we humans are just so special.

      Seriously if look at human history and you assume they aliens are going to be technologically inferior to us, you can see how his thinking could be use to justify everything from slavery to genocide. Hopefully any intelligent aliens we come across that have built advanced civilizations of their own, and have traveled throughout the galaxy won’t think like Europeans did during the days of colonization and race based slavery.

      1. Sorry let me fix that last paragraph. Should have done a better job editing it.

        “Seriously if we look at human history and you assume the aliens are going to be technologically inferior to us, you can see how his thinking could be used to justify everything from slavery to genocide. Hopefully any intelligent aliens we come across that have built advanced civilizations of their own, and have traveled throughout the galaxy, won’t think like Europeans did during the days of colonization and race based slavery.”

    2. But Ken Ham is wrong according to his own religion. Man is destined to hell because of original sin, without it the whole Jesus thing is sort of moot. So does he think aliens are actually from Earth and are descendants of Adam and were somehow relocated, or does he believe they have their own Adam and serpent and Satan etc.? And if that were the case wouldn’t they have their own hell? Plus, doesn’t he realize (I know, look who I’m talking about) that any life we find is doubtful to be intelligent in any way that we would recognize? Or do bacterium, viruses, and fungi go to hell also? Or do they go to heaven? Maybe they only go to the hell that germaphobes are going to. Between this and Pope Frankie wanting to baptize Martians (and we won’t even speak of the constant drip, drip, drip of inanity that is Deepak Choprah’s twitter account) there has been a lot of very shallow navel-gazing about aliens (and other sciency sounding stuff) by religious “leaders” recently. While it doesn’t prove that science and religion are incompatible, it sure does allow for questions that I doubt they are prepared to answer about their own beliefs. Well, except for Deepak, he’s always willing to fill the air with a string of technical-sounding word-salad that signifies nothing while showcasing his ignorance, funny stuff if you can avoid the esplody-head that usually follows.

      Asking questions is hard because it causes you to think. That sucks if your beliefs require as little thinking about as possible.

      1. Mrmisconception,

        If you read what he says, Ham believes that if aliens exist they’re destined to go to hell, because they’re not related to us and that Adam’s sin effected the whole universe somehow. Basically they’re sinful because of our sin, and Jesus wouldn’t save them because they’re not human. That’s how he thinks. He believes in a “loving” god doesn’t he?

        1. He also believes in a big pile of horse droppings. His Bible says that original sin is visited on the descendants of Adam and Eve, if the aliens are not related to us then they are not effected by our sin cooties, Ham is a dipshit. QED

          1. Mrmisconception,

            People like him also believe that all the carnivores, including the mighty T-Rex were originally vegetarians and only started eating meat after the fall. Never mind things like sharp teeth and claws that are literally built to rip other animals to shreds and stomachs that are made for digesting flesh instead of plant fibers. I guess that’s where he get’s the idea that Adam’s sin effected the entire universe. Creationists are desperate to explain how it could have been that death didn’t exist prior to “the fall,” despite the fact that if the Genesis account is to be believed, God clearly created some animals that can only live by taking the lives of other animals.

  3. Ken Ham should talk to the Pope (as if he would deign) because Frankie says that he would baptize Martians. That means the Pope believes that Martians (is this a 50s sci-fi movies) are either descended from Adam, or had their own personal original sin event, or that he would be nice enough to baptize them even though there would be nothing in it for them since they aren’t tarred with that original sin. Weird huh?

    Anyway, this is one time where Ken Ham’s batshit is a bit less batshitty then the Pope’s, go figure.

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