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“‘Sexual Attention?’ Don’t Know What the Hell That Means”

Did you know that your weird Uncle Jerry has a YouTube channel, and he’s been using it to tell tens of people his opinions about women and their nutty ideas? Particularly, their absurd idea that they should hold some conference called “Women in Secularism Squared“? And he’s doing it in his favorite Blue Oyster Cult tee while playing Simon and Garfunkle softly in the background? Well, it’s true. Just watch the video!

For those who can’t play the video, I’ve gone through and collected Jerry’s greatest quotes:

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My talk now is about this “Women in Secularism Squared” conference . . .

:50
So it’s titled “Women in Secularism Squared,” or Two . . .

1:14
Maybe we should have a Men in Secularism but what’s the subject though? Your women, uh, then what? Discuss your womenly, uh, um, characteristics? Or female characteristics?

1:58
“Skepchick” is gonna be there so you know how it’s gonna go.

2:10
Is this the female version of The Amazing Meeting?

2:50
First of all men, eh, it’s not about you, so I’d suggest men don’t go.

3:12
You’ll get accused of lurking, staring, um…see the problem with that is women don’t realize this but men are supposed to be the initiators of romance [ED: AT CONFERENCES?].

4:15
I’m not gonna play that chasing [women] game.

4:44
It’s called Women in Secularism Two, or Squared, I’m not sure which it is . . .

6:35
That sentence included “unwelcome sexual attention.” Don’t know what that means. “Sexual attention?” Don’t know what the hell that means. Men! If you look at someone, if you look at someone’s breasts, that might be “unwelcome sexual attention.” You may be in trouble. You can get kicked out. Ya pay your money, and get kicked out. Nice, right?

Oh, Uncle Jerry! Always making your YouTube videos and looking at people’s breasts and not knowing what “sexual attention” is. Poor, lonely Uncle Jerry.

For more from rising Men’s Rights Activist JerrytheOther, check out his other video on Amanda Marcotte’s Point of Inquiry episode (link starts at lulz).

Rebecca Watson

Rebecca leads a team of skeptical female activists at Skepchick.org. She travels around the world delivering entertaining talks on science, atheism, feminism, and skepticism. There is currently an asteroid orbiting the sun with her name on it. You can follow her every fascinating move on Twitter or on Google+.

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      1. I had no idea it was even a thing. Sounds so freaking funny. Where are all the men going their own way actually going? Are they going together? And are they going to gather and have a MGTOW Squared event? If so, what will they talk about? Will they just list all the men who have gone their own way together? Probably won’t take very long.

        1. Mostly, they seem to hang around saying “I’m leaving. I’m totally leaving. You’ll be sorry when I’m not here. Look at me leaving.”
          It’d be much nicer if they’d just fucking go. I can’t see many women considering them a great loss to the dating pool.

          1. I’m really not sure why insults of appearance, particularly being fat, are necessary here. I mean, tbh, thee’s so much else in the ideology that’s repulsive, without moralizing about weight. Also, the way I hear it, wives are things you “get” like a prize for being a decent person.

          2. Kate, of course you are correct and I could have phrased that better. Still, that stereotype fits – I used to know some of them. On one level it may be funny, but on another not so much. It seems a lot like slavery to me.

          3. As for being short and fat, I am 5 foot 8 and 210 kg and describe myself as such, so if I can own the factual description, so can these fine gentlemen.

  1. The topic of WIS-squared this year:
    Men, please stop staring at my boobs while I’m trying to talk about my periods and eat yogurt with other atheist yogurt-eating vagina bleeders.

  2. THIS….” men are supposed to be the initiators of romance [ED: AT CONFERENCES?].”

    Does not seem to really mesh with THIS …“I’m not gonna play that chasing [women] game.”

    Which is it, dude?! Make up your dang mind, yeesh!

    1. Marilove,
      On a different note I was hoping you could give me some info. My mother passed away last weekend, and I’m in Mesa cleaning out her appartment. She had alot of nice blouses, and I was wondering if you could recomend a womens shelter in the area I could donate them to?

  3. Wait what? I’m not supposed to go to conferences that aren’t about me? I’m fairly certain there has never been and never will be a conference about me. The two TAM London’s weren’t about me, I enjoyed those. The two “Critical Mass” (Norwegian) conferences weren’t about me, I enjoyed those. I’ve seen several talks by Rebecca not about me, and I enjoyed those.

      1. Basically works out to men swearing off relationships with “western women”, and getting together online with other MGTOWs to complain loudly about how awful women are, how men are just so awesome (but put-upon by not having constant access to “women” whose behavior would be more in line with that of a living sex-doll), and how they can best recruit young men to their movement before they grow out of their awkward/”anger at everyone especially the women they desire”-stage.

  4. Personally, I’ve never liked the phrase “unwanted sexual attention” to describe harassment. It always struck me as being too vague as it could mean anything from flirting with somebody who’s not interested to rape. Personally, I’ve never committed the latter (where’s my cookie!), but I have a long, sorry history of the former. Of course, I stop when my affections are rebuffed (that’s 2 cookies I’m owed Rebecca, don’t think I’m not keeping score), so I like to think I’ve got a handle on what appropriate behavior is. But, as you can see here, MRAs use it to instill paranoia in insecure guys that evil, man-hating feminists will accuse them of sexual assault if they so much as look at them. Although, I’m not sure what a better term would be.

    However, regardless of whatever this guy’s problem is with WIS2, for an alleged skeptic he sure doesn’t like to get involved in any actual inquiry. Couldn’t he have emailed the organizers to find out more about what WIS2 is? Maybe ask some questions about the code of conduct so he could inform his viewers on just what “unwanted sexual attention” encompasses? Nah, he’d rather just whine about feminists, which is pretty much what all MRAs do.

    1. I fail to understand the fuss about the very sensible and basic code of conduct. The concept is well established and enforced in many workplaces and yet people still manage to hook up. It’s not as if this is a new thing, it has been around for decades and there are people around who are experts at how to implement this properly and professionally and who are well aware of all the potential pitfalls.

  5. Would it be considered “Creepshaming” to say this man creeps me right the fuck out?

    Anyway, I absolutely LOVE it when assholes who either don’t attend or have no plans to attend these conferences with their radical brand new harassment policies whine like children about the presence of such policies and how the policies will just ruin everything, or worse, act like tattling children if they hear that anyone attending mentioned sex or naughty parts or #SaliciousPostures and weren’t promptly run out on a rail.

    I guess my point is…what a pack of whining brats. At least real life children eventually grow out of it.

    1. The creepy thing is that they rationalize marginalizing & sometimes violent behavior towards women. And with these attitudes, there is a chance that they would indeed do something bad to women (like try to get you drunk for sex, etc.) So the creep label has validity to it.

  6. Wow, he’s really clever and amusing and articulate and fluent, isn’t he. Super-rewarding to watch and listen to. Not at all a waste of anyone’s time while he sits there trying to figure out what he wants to say, and groping for obvious words, and waving his hand in the air.

  7. Translation: I’m some lame dude who has never really understood women that well and the fact that they are just people, and I am frustrated that despite my awesome personality, nobody wants to sleep with me, and all the men like me NEED these conferences if we have any hope to mate at any point in our lives, and screw you fembots for taking that away from me.

    I can’t believe it’s considered unreasonable to keep a professional conference professional.

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